This week Bryan sits down with Pastor Brian Sauve, who happens to be a recording artist as well, to discuss why conservatives and Christians miss the mark so often in music and media.

They discuss Sauve's new album release, Even Dragons Shall Him Praise, that beat Lauren Daigle and Taylor Swift for April streams and downloads. They talk about his unique approach to Christian music as well as the need for our side to tell stories better.

The Behind The Scenes segment is a discussion of whether Conservatism is possible without Christ at the center? Sauve suggests that the modern conservative movement is borrowing from capital that Christians created for centuries and the fact that that capital is running out fast.

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